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MINUTES OF THE CITY COUNCIL
OF THE
CITY OF STEPHENVILLE, TEXAS, HELD ON
FRIDAY, AUGUST 27, 1982 - 3:30 P.M.
A special session of the City Council of the City of Stephenville,
Texas was called to order by the Mayor with the following members present:
Mayor Joe F. Cummings Councilman Charles Riggins
Councilman G. A. Swindle Councilman Ray Reynolds
Councilman John E. Pollan Councilman David Clayton
Councilman William G. Brede
and with the following members absent: Councilmen Raymond Anderson and
E. W. Ferguson.
City Administrator Kurt J. Ackermann, City Secretary Joyce Pemberton,
Director of Finance Charlene Young, Fire Chief Gene Morrison, and James
P. Bachus, Chief Appraiser for Erath County Central Appraisal District,
were also present.
Mayor Cummings explained this meeting was for the purpose of con -
ducting -a public hearing to consider approval of the proposed budget for
the fiscal year 1982 -1983.
HEARING TO CONSIDER
PROPOSED 1982 -1983
Mr. Gene Morrison, Volunteer Fire Chief, addressed the Council with
a budget request of approximately $40,000 for a new radio alert system
for the Fire Department (paid and volunteers).
Mr. Morrison
Council could not
one -half this yea
$20,994 would get
a large encoder.
Council sees fit.
said he realized that money was a problem and if the
see fit to purchase the whole system they might consider
r and one -half next year. Mr. Morrison explained that
a repeater, cable, antenna, 40 pagers, 40 chargers, and
This would give the base and could be expanded as the
Mayor Cummings advised Mr. Morrison that the Council did appreciate
the volunteer department and his request would certainly be considered.
Mr. James P. Bachus, Chief Appraiser of the Central Appraisal District
of Erath County, came before the Council to discuss the CAD's proposed
budget for 1983.
Mr. Bachus explained that most of the $22,241 increase in the 1983
budget was due to the fact that they were going to have to find another
building as their present building was being sold.
DISCUSSION (in part) AS FOLLOWS:
Councilman Clayton: "Mr. Bachus, do you have some type of professional
guidelines the appraisers go by when they are out appraising property, such
as the type of questions they ask the landowners; etc. and is there some
type disciplinary action taken when someone does not follow these guidelines ?'
Mr. Bachus: "Yes, the appraisers are registered under the Texas State
Professional Assessors and there is a Code of Ethics and anytime the Code of
Ethics is misused that person is subject to review both locally and there too.
Councilman Swindle: When an appraiser goes out to a place, say in the
country or whereever, and there are any outbuildings, is he allowed to walk
in those buildings and look around without anyone being there. I mean can
they just arbitrarily walk into any building?
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Mr. Bachus: If it is revelant to the value of the building, then
he has permission to do so. He has the same permission as a deputy sheriff.
Councilman Swindle: Without having to have some - - I mean, if the
people don't even know he's there, he can just walk up and go in a
building and look around?
Mr. Bachus: Well, not in a home.
to? Councilman Swindle: No, but he can go in any other building he wants
Mr. Bachus: If a garage door is open, he can go in a garage.
Councilman Swindle: How about opening the door to a pump house
and storage building and just walking it it?
Mr. Bachus: Well, yes, if its inhabited he can't. He could, but
we don't recommend it. .
Councilman Swindle: Well, the reason I asked that was because Mr.
Groves was out on a piece of property I have on the Dublin Highway and
my neighbor happened to see him open the door to the pump house where
I store a bunch of stuff_ and walk in it and look around. I really didn't
appreciate it because I didn't know he was out there in the first place.
I don't think a guy should be able to just walk in and be able to go
where ever he wants to go. He should be able to measure the outside of
it, but I don't think he has any business on the inside.
Mr. Bachus: If it has any detriment to the value, then, if its not
sealed inside, well then, he'd say well its not sealed, but if its sealed
and he sees its sealed, well, then it has something to do with the value.
Councilman Swindle: Are you telling me that to appraise a tile pump
shed he has to go inside and look at it?
Mr. Bachus: He doesn't have to, no.
Councilman Swindle: That's what I'm questioning. What the hell
was he doing in my building looking around?
Mr. Bachus: Did you tell him not to go in?
Councilman Swindle: I didn't know he was out there till he was al-
ready gone. I mean he just drove up asked whose place it was and they
told him. He just went back there and next thing I knew he was going
in - - looked around a little while and came back out. I don't know
if he's in there using the telephone or what.
Councilman Clayton: I think the point that's probably being brought
out here is like in my case, you know, when they appraised my place out
where my horses are, my horse 'barn that's being constructed, I think it
would be good public relations to be careful about the questions asked.
Everybody knows you have the right, there's no doubt about it, but, you
know rights and what's prudent is not always the same thing. The questions
they ask when they are on the place and the way they present themselves,
its not as a matter we're out here as a public service, it seems to me
like in some cases, its a matter of we're out here doing to you what we
want to do and I think its a bad way to come off, don't you?
Mr. Bachus: No, that's the wrong impression, if it was left, then
it was wrong.
Councilman Clayton: Well it was the impression that was given to
me and I know, and I'm not wanting to be unfair, because I know it would
be much better, maybe in some ways, if the man could stand here before us
and say, well, this is why I did what I did, I realize that, but I'dJust
like to make the point that there was some things done that left a bad
taste in my mouth and, obviously, some others and after all this is not
the kind of thing you want turning into somebody resenting somebody coming
out to do that sort of thing. In other words, I don't want to feel that
I have to watch this guy and feel like I've got to be even protective
about my property when he comes around. Some of the questions, which I'm
not going to bring up, I don't think it would be a good idea to, he asked
were irrevelant to the situation and I really resented him asking questions
of the type that he did and I think it would be a good idea to monitor,
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those sort of things pretty close because this is going to be a tough
enough job, everybody knows that, your job's never been a popular job
so to speak, but it can be made worse by this sort of thing.
Mr. Bachus: Let me say, I've heard more here than I've heard from
my board or - - -I've had less than 30 refusals out of 26,000 pieces of
property.
Councilman Swindle: I'm not refusing to have the man come on the
property to appraise it, but had I known he was coming and needed in the
building - - if I had been there to watch him - - I don't think the boy
would steal, but I don't have time to watch him, but if I had known he
was coming and could have gone in the building with him, I would have
known good and well he didn't steal anything. How do I know the man
didn't pick up a handful of handtools and take them with him? I'm not
accusing the man of taking anything, but that is the situation that you
could get into.
Mr. Bachus: If the property was locked, they contact the property
owner, then, if they can't get into it, they estimate the value.
Councilman Swindle: I wasn't notified that he was out there. He
pulled up, asked who the property belonged to and then he goes across
the fence and walked down through there. Had he gone through the gate
by Mr. Pair's or even by the house I own, both of those are kept locked
at all times.
Mr. Bachus: They have telescopes to pull anything to within 300
yds. and there was no use in this type thing going on. As I said, this
is more than he had run into with 26,000 pieces of property.
After more discussion, Mayor Cummings told Mr. Bachus that the
Council felt that he needed to know these things and would want to know
the concerns they had. Also the Council needed to get acquainted with
the Appraisal District's operation in the Council's situation of trying
to meet the city's budget it is required to meet to support the Central
Appraisal District.
Mr. Bachus advised the Council that, as a Council, they have the
right, within 30 days, to throw this proposed Central Appraisal District's
budget out, but that they have tried to be as professional as possible
with this budget.
Mr. Bachus named the following as items that are not public records:
(1) the renditions, (2) sales information, (3) ag exemptions, and (4)
anticipated values - have no real value until accepted by the Board.
Councilman Clayton; Would an appraiser be likely to ask a question
like "Do you really think you are going to call this a farm once it has
been a subdivision ? Do you really think you are going to get by with
that ?" Is that a proper question as the property was not subdivided?
Mr. Bachus: Yes, in your case David. Guthrie still has two lots
under the subdivision name, but that was not the proper way to handle it.
Councilman Clayton: That is my question. That is why I think there
are problems that need to be looked at. I think that if you would talk to
Commissioners you will find there is some discontent with them also. The
way these things are handled by personnel can make a big difference in the
way people feel toward the Central Appraisal District.
After more discussion, Mayor Cummings thanked Mr. Bachus for coming
and discussing these items with the Council and advised him that the
Council would like to work closely with the Appraisal District as it
would be a benefit to both entities.
Mayor Cummings asked for comments on Gene Morrison's request.
Councilman Riggins commented that the tax rate would need to be
raised l(�. This would create an additional $25,000.
Councilman Clayton reminded the Council that Kenneth Haley had said
(in budget workshop) that he did not think this radio alert system was
that important.
Mayor Cummings said that was the reason Mr. Morrison was so late
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coming in with this request. He had thought Kenneth was going to pre-
sent it in budget workshops.
City Administrator Ackermann said that Mr. Haley said that if he
could have $1200. in the budget for some antenna works and coax work,
etc., then he would not need these pagers and he does have the $1200.
in the budget for this work.
Councilman Swindle asked if it had been decided to freeze the Fire
Marshal's salary at the present level without the 5% increase?
City Administrator Ackermann advised that a 5% cost of living in-
crease for the Fire Marshal is included in this budget.
Councilman Swindle advised that the Fire Marshal is overpaid in
comparison with other cities doing the same job. If the city is going
to $25,000 for a Fire Chief, there is no sense in boosting the Fire
Marshal's job. Once it catches up, in a year or two, then go ahead and
give the normal raise, if we need to.
Councilman Riggins commented that the hiring of a new Fire Chief
would reduce the duties and responsibilities of the Fire Marshal.
City Administrator Ackermann advised that it would be worth 3fi on
the key rate according to the State Board of Insurance to have the Fire
Chief separate and apart from the Fire Marshal.
Councilman Swindle moved approval of the 1982 -1983 budget as pre-
sented with the follwoing changes:
1. The Fire Marshal's salary be frozen at present status.
2. $21,000 be put into a contingency fund in the event the new
Fire Chief feels the beepers are needed.
Councilman Pollan made the'second.
Councilman Brede asked that the amendments to the budget be voted
on as separate items.
Councilman Swindle moved that the Fire Marshal's salary for the
1982 -1983 fiscal year remain the same as 1981 - 1982. Councilman Pollan
made the second. The motion carried by the following vote:
AYES: Councilmen Swindle,.Pollan, Riggins, Reynolds, and Clayton
NOES: Councilman Brede.
Councilman Swindle moved that $21,000 be appropriated into a separate
contingency fund to be used by the new Fire Chief in the event he decides
the beepers are needed. Councilman Pollan made the second. The motion
carried by the following vote:
AYES: All members present
NOES: None
Councilman Swindle moved approval of the following ordinance
AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE BUDGET SUBMITTED BY THE CITY ADMINISTRATOR
OF THE CITY OF STEPHENVILLE FOR THE FISCAL YEAR OCTOBER 1, 1982 TO
SEPTEMBER 30, 1983.
Councilman Riggins made the second
vote:
AYES; All members present
NOES: None
The motion carried by the following
There being no other business, the meeting adjourned at 4:45 p.m.
Jo Cummings, Mayor
EST:
Citff Secretary